For someone who's done a lot of counterterrorism work,

It's something we have to, too, and that means the people who are working on counterterrorism responses have to start, in effect, putting on their Google tinted glasses, or whatever.

I've really tried to solve some big problems counterterrorism, nuclear terrorism, and health care and diagnosing and treating cancer, but I started thinking about all these problems, and I realized that the really biggest problem we face, what all these other problems come down to, is energy, is electricity, the flow of electrons.